I think clash of fannish cultures because this goes way beyond vidding. We've been exploring these issues for the past 5 years on LJ. Since the Internet is a big place, fans have felt free(er) to create their own vision of how the world is/should be. Don't like the archive rules? create your own. don't like the mailing list/blog community - create your own. And to be honest, the moment we had access to the Internet in the early 1990s, fans have voted with their feet.

It is when we move into real space that ..well, reality sinks in that there are limits on what people can - and are willing to do. This cuts both ways.

which leads me back to: yes, we need more conventions/meeting spaces that cater to different 'audiences'. remember, Vividcon was partially an outgrowth of vidder unhappiness with Escapade. And Escapade was an outgrowth of slash fans frustration with Zebracon (again, partially cause there are many reasons for each of these conventions).