Okay, now I'm intrigued, because it looks to me like we have totally different perceptions of the term chan, though we were in the same place at the same time, virtually. To me, chan was stories about an underage Obi-Wan, for the US definition of under 18, but not a prepubescent child. That was how I understood it, anyway. And then there was the discussion about whether chan always meant this oh-look-puberty character having sex with an older person, or if two underage characters together was chan. I also got the impression that when the term moved to HP, chan was used for stories that featured sex with prepubescent children, but I never investigated that very closely. What was your view of the whole thing? :)