arduinna | hc_bingo, once again!

Welp, you and

mollyamory did the trick...I asked for a card! Ulp.

Well, honestly, I'm more capable of thinking creatively for things I haven't been assigned myself, as I get to skip the whole tharn phase of panic and lockdown. *g*

Heh. Yeah, that was a concern of mine...I was attracted by seeing other peoples' cards and going Oh wow, totally cool, I can imagine x y z...but when it's my responsibility, then comes the tharn stage.

I'm not sure that would qualify, as the pregnancy would have to directly affect your characters; it can't just be incidental.

Point taken! Although I had imagined that the numbered-woman's pregnancy would be a big cause of everything that happened to Reese and Finch--for instance, that her pregnancy was the precise thing putting her in such danger. Which danger they then put themselves in the way of, while helping look after her and her particular needs. Would that still be incidental, do you think? (Although I really like your ideas and would gladly ~~steal~~ borrow them with permission if necessary...)

our beloved clam had added another layer of shell, and the other beloved clam had noticed and silently investigated and then gently brushed his fingers across the back of the first clam's hand at an opportune moment...

Oh, boys, GET A ROOM. :D

I tend to forget that this allows for pretty short writing, too

I definitely forget this, all the time! But my focus will have to be on short pieces, forcibly if necessary, since part of my overall goal is to get more experience/comfort in writing short.

and we could do our own mini-deadlines -- one story a month, or something

Let's do! Let's have some kind of accountability deal together. I mean, writing while hanging with

mollyamory and

marycrawford got me over a thousand words into the stalled comment fic (or rather, by now, "comment fic") I promised Lydia, just over the past couple of nights!

Ooo-err, here's my card!:

bullet wounds	loss of job / income	blood loss	fire	medication
rejection	comfort food or item	sexual extortion	amnesia	self-harm
depression	brainwashing	WILD CARD	drowning	nightmares
panic attacks	archaic medical treatment	hiding an injury / illness	burns	extortion
homesickness	stranded / survival scenario	forced to participate in illegal / hurtful activity	planet destruction	hostile climate

Edited (Border lines didn't show on preview, but did when posted!) 2012-06-11 17:27 (UTC)

Oooh, hey, you got a good one! There are really only two that vaguely squick me. \o/

Yeah, it may not have cuddling for warmth (the holy grail! *g*), but it has brainwashing! ♥ Plus a couple of things I've written in the past, so I know I can manage it.

What are your vague squicks in this context? It would be easy for me to avoid them, at this early planning stage.

P.S. ICON LOOOOOOVE.

Brainwashing and amnesia! And nightmares! And hiding an illness/injury! Bullet wounds! Medication! (Heh -- PoI already did those last two. ♥)

I'm vaguely twitchy about self-harm (because it tends to manifest in fanfic as BSOs cutting themselves like teenage girls) and sexual extortion (again, in the context of fanfic, I associate with Aliens/Sadistic Villains Made Us Do It). But I can't see you writing either of those examples, anyway!

Feel free to help yourself to all three, if you'd like.

(Heh -- PoI already did those last two. ♥)

They diiiiiid. ...and hmm, actually, they did those last three, if we count John in the finale, having been hurt but keeping it to himself for the time being, his arm quietly down by his side... Oh, POI, you are so good to me.

And understood about those squicks! I don't think I'd write them in those particular ways--at least, I hope not!--but it's good to be alert. I think my approach would be more along the lines of... Like, for sexual extortion, how Kelly (and more rarely, Scotty) is sometimes sent on missions to seduce-and-destroy, which may not always end up very well for them. Or, really, any one of my BSOs who might need to go undercover to do that particular deed against an antagonist. If I understand the phrase correctly, I think that sort of thing would count?

Self-harm, hmm. I again suspect I wouldn't have the self-harm be an expression of personal inner depression/anxiety, a la cutting. I feel like I'd be more likely to have the self-harm come from a different place, as when Reese is in the refrigerated truck and bruises/lacerates his wrists so badly from struggling against the handcuffs. A type of self-harm performed in a back-against-the-wall situation, especially to save someone else. (Pause for a moment to run the scene through my head. Ahhh.)

Feel free to help yourself to all three, if you'd like.

Oh oh oh you have a MEANINGFUL GLASSES ADJUSTMENT. Sigh! ♥____♥

Oh, POI, you are so good to me.

Truly! ♥ ♥ ♥

Or, really, any one of my BSOs who might need to go undercover to do that particular deed against an antagonist. If I understand the phrase correctly, I think that sort of thing would count?

I guess I tend to interpret prompts as against our BSOs, not necessarily something they do, as part of their jobs, to others? But I don't know enough about the rules to make that call.

A type of self-harm performed in a back-against-the-wall situation, especially to save someone else. (Pause for a moment to run the scene through my head. Ahhh.)

YES! See, I've been so conditioned against it that I never even thought of something like that. (Mmm... yes, that scene.)

Oh oh oh you have a MEANINGFUL GLASSES ADJUSTMENT.

And crinkly-eyed Reese smile! ♥

But I don't know enough about the rules to make that call.

Me neither, at this point. *g* I'll run it past people who're more familiar with the whole bingo experience. But my thinking at present is that it could count, if the sexual-extortion our BSOs have to perform is the ultimate cause of the H in the H/C. (I mean, the episode "Laya" kind of does that to Scotty already, having his loathing of the whole process spark off a ton of distress, and a fight with Kelly...)

The rules also talk about how the prompt can be related to the H or the C, which seems to indicate some basic flexibility of interpretation (esp. rules 15 and 16 here), as long as the prompt is a central feature of the story and not just a passing detail ("After the mission where they did a lot of sexual extortion, it turns out Kelly and Scotty got lost in the Arctic and had to cuddle for warmth!").

But these are just my guesses, and I'll keep noodging those in the know for their thoughts.

And crinkly-eyed Reese smile!

*falls over* I will never get tired of that scene. Aiiiieeee.

*falls over* I will never get tired of that scene. Aiiiieeee.

IKR? *flails*

Or, really, any one of my BSOs who might need to go undercover to do that particular deed against an antagonist. If I understand the phrase correctly, I think that sort of thing would count?

I think that would totally count, as much as being sexually extorted themselves. Having to do the deed creates psychological harm, and also potentially harm to their existing (or potential) relationship with Other BSO.

And yes, on self-harm in the line of duty! I would think even accidental self-harm would qualify if need be.

Oh, awesome card! \o/ There is boatloads of scope there.

I am excited!

And yours, too... That central row right across just seems so so nice, and moreso every time I look at it. Hell, I could imagine that row serving as the five-prompts-one-story row thing in the Extras, too, depending on where your actual Bingo pattern ends up being.

Yes! There are a couple of rows that just keep looking more appealing -- and, hysterically, a few squares that I apparently slid right over in my initial perusal, and have only just noticed. ("runaways"? Really? hee, okay then...)

That central row could totally be all one story, man.

And looking at yours, almost all your horizontal rows could be single stories, if you wanted. Wow. (Look at that bottom row! *wow*)

Yours is pretty awesome, too! Again, really only two squicky things (and flogging is one of yours, too).

I'm pretty happy with it! Although

dorinda's grass looks greener, of course. *g*

And even with the flogging, I was just thinking about it since you mentioned it and realized that technically I have something I could do -- there's always Crusoe canonically being flogged, and Friday caring for him after. I could just missing-scene/extended-scene that up a bit, if I wound up needing to do a row with that square in it. (Without a canonical scene to work off, I just can't even. no no.) (And it's not my first choice of square/row to tackle!)

There are a few others I'm side-eyeing a bit -- like de-aging and stockholm syndrome -- but I figure there are ways to creatively interpret them in a pinch. (Brainwashing would be there, too, and even is to a minor extent, but there's always Kelly, and Loki's minions...)

What was your other main squick on mine?

Heee...yeah, the cards are always greener in the other person's html code.

And never underestimate the usefulness of canonical flogging! Which reminds me...

Brainwashing would be there, too, and even is to a minor extent, but there's always Kelly

There IS always Kelly. When in search of a canonical hurt, you should have him in your pocket just in case! I mean, he's also a possibility for flogging, if you posited a missing scene in Room With a Rack (aka THEY TORTURE KELLY) or a pre-episode explanation for his injuries in Home to Judgment (aka SOMEONE ALREADY TORTURED KELLY). :D He's like a Swiss Army Knife of canon-H for your H/C needs.

De-aging is one of those fantastical ones that I figured I'd have to get very metaphorical about. (I mean, weirdo universes like Haven excluded.)

There IS always Kelly. When in search of a canonical hurt, you should have him in your pocket just in case!

Seriously, he is so useful! *g* I was thinking about him for the flogging too, after I hit post on the comment. Because of course he's good for *everything*. Your center row basically shouts "oh look a giant angsty Kelly story!" at me, for instance. *g* (although equally almost anyone else, really -- like maybe Reese, with Finch in the background desperately searching for him...)

I'm pretty willing to just go flat-out cracky, but de-aging has never been my thing, so that one's harder. But not impossible, I think... (... I hope. *g*)

Mmmmmmm, I like the way you think.

*hugs Kelly pre-emptively*

*...and Reese too*

But not impossible, I think...

Not impossible! And I mean, if you're using it for a realistic-universe fandom and don't want to go magical-realism or cracky, I was imagining possible interpretations like... Oh, let's take Kelly, just since he's already here and suffering so helpfully. *g* Maybe Kelly has to infiltrate/seduce/socialize his way into a particular expat group. But by this time in his career, the folks in the group are all a lot younger than he is. So he has to 1) pitch himself as a slightly younger guy, and 2) keep up with the energy levels and activities (and maturity levels) preferred by this younger set, to better be included by them instead of being seen as the Dad-Mascot. More of a personal/forcible/metaphorical "de-aging", that would surely bring on a lot of psychological distress for him (re: aging out of the job, falling down on the job, the Department grinding him into the dirt as their expendable tool...), not even to mention the physical toll.

That was just off the top of my head, though, as one angle on an "I am trapped as [in the role of] a younger person and I can't get out" sort of thing. I'm sure there are better ways to go at it, without having to do the "poof, someone is crackily turned into a little kid and their partner has to look after them oh jeez no thank you nooooo". *cough*

"poof, someone is crackily turned into a little kid and their partner has to look after them oh jeez no thank you nooooo". *cough*

heeeeee

Yeah, it's good to have options -- and a square I can ignore unless push comes to shove!

(And a Kelly, as an owie of all trades...)

"poof, someone is crackily turned into a little kid and their partner has to look after them oh jeez no thank you nooooo". *cough*

*makes warding sign*

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds that not to their taste.

Yeah, if it's canonical flogging, I can usually deal (as long as it's not Passion of the Christ extreme, or the writer doesn't decide to turn it into sexxytiems -- and I know you wouldn't do either!), but only if there's a big, honkin' boatload of comfort afterward (if not, it's just sadism, which is really, really not my thing).

My other squicky thing was de-aging, which you were also side-eyeing a bit. Again, it's one thing if there's something canonical (like the younger version of Jack in SG-1), or if there were supernatural elements in canon that might account for it. Otherwise? DNW.

I'd be okay with Stockholm syndrome connected to someone like Loki, because we've seen him whammy people.

Seriously, that icon is killing me. ♥ ♥ ♥

Yeah, if it's canonical flogging, I can usually deal (as long as it's not Passion of the Christ extreme, or the writer doesn't decide to turn it into sexxytiems -- and I know you wouldn't do either!), but only if there's a big, honkin' boatload of comfort afterward (if not, it's just sadism, which is really, really not my thing).

Yeah, exactly - I can't deal with the sadism aspect at all, and the sexxytiems, god no, all I can think is how much it would hurt. I don't like flexing my hand when I've got a paper cut!

I'd be okay with Stockholm syndrome connected to someone like Loki, because we've seen him whammy people.

Yeah, I was specifically thinking Loki for Stockholm syndrome -- there's some great post-movie fodder there. (Or even during, since it sounds like Clint was practically goa'ulded.) (And, for that matter, there's goa'ulding, or potentially all the Tok'ra hosts, including Jack, Sam, and Jacob...)

You're welcome to my icons, too. I don't make very good ones, but they serve their purpose. *g*

all I can think is how much it would hurt.

Same here. Pain will never be erotic to me (just like incest won't, either).

Or even during, since it sounds like Clint was practically goa'ulded.

Totally! That could be really interesting to explore, as a writer. (Wait... who am I kidding? There must be lots of Clint ponders... stories out there already! *g*)

pregnancy would be a big cause of everything that happened to Reese and Finch--for instance, that her pregnancy was the precise thing putting her in such danger. Which danger they then put themselves in the way of, while helping look after her and her particular needs. Would that still be incidental, do you think?

Hm -- I'm not sure, honestly! I mean, that's definitely pregnancy leading to bad things. But fwiw, for myself, I think I wouldn't write it that way, because it feels a bit more like a plot device that leads to the hurt that requires comfort, rather than itself providing a hurt that requires comfort (e.g., so the comfort would be about a bullet wound or head trauma from falling off a wall, rather than comfort about something pregnancy-related). But I tend to take a fairly conservative view about this stuff sometimes. *G* And I don't think the mods police responses, particularly -- they just want stories inspired by the prompts, which that idea definitely is.

Okay, and looking at the rules, it looks like as long as the pregnancy is a key part of the plot, it would be okay:

"Your work should have more than just a singular mention of the prompt. It should deal with it in some way. For example, if your prompt is "broken bone" that should be a significant factor in your work not just a passing mention. How you deal with a prompt is left at your discretion."

So no worries!

Oh, boys, GET A ROOM. :D

heeee

Did you read Ces's story? You should, it is lovely!

Let's do! Let's have some kind of accountability deal together. I mean, writing while hanging with [personal profile] mollyamory and [personal profile] marycrawford got me over a thousand words into the stalled comment fic (or rather, by now, "comment fic") I promised Lydia, just over the past couple of nights!

Oh, that is fabulous!

And I am all for an accountability thing, and/or group writing hours, or what have you. Although I may beg off for June on accounta vidding psychosis. (Although who knows, maybe by next week I'll be desperate to do something that doesn't involve beats and stray frames...)

The rules mention of "significant factor" but also "at your discretion" is indeed where I'd pin my hopes...but you make an excellent point, which I think I'd end up having to follow:

(e.g., so the comfort would be about a bullet wound or head trauma from falling off a wall, rather than comfort about something pregnancy-related).

Yeah, that makes very good sense, and I can see the dodging involved, which would kind of defeat the point of the exercise. And therefore I would definitely need one of your clever POI ideas or similar, had I gotten 'unplanned pregnancy' (I ruled out 'difficult pregnancy' but left in 'unplanned' and took a gamble, in order to remove something else).

Did you read Ces's story? You should, it is lovely!

Not yet, but I certainly will! YAY CES WROTE CLAMS ON PARADE. \o/

And I am all for an accountability thing, and/or group writing hours, or what have you.

Whatever else we do, we could certainly go for 'story-a-month' (aka Arduinna's Law, wasn't that the definition of that one?), if you like. And then the group-writing-time could happen when we can manage it, but wouldn't be quite as mandatory (I'm someone who presently has a fair amount of trouble getting the time and privacy for group writing time, although I love it when I can get it...)

Although I may beg off for June on accounta vidding psychosis.

Understandable! If your eyes are still spinning around all @____@ , you could take June as 1) vidding crazy time, and secondarily 2) eyeballing card and thinking about your favorite squares time.

Whatever else we do, we could certainly go for 'story-a-month' (aka Arduinna's Law, wasn't that the definition of that one?),

It was, for the brief shining three months or however long it lasted. *g* But it's not a bad schedule -- enough pressure so people are writing something, but not so much everyone's getting burned out. (Although wow, the end of the month comes up fast...)

And then the group-writing-time could happen when we can manage it, but wouldn't be quite as mandatory (I'm someone who presently has a fair amount of trouble getting the time and privacy for group writing time, although I love it when I can get it...)

Oh, yeah, definitely -- catch as catch can, for that.

Joining in to say: hi, I have caved like a caving thing!

My card:

headaches / migraines	loss of limb / limb function	loss of job / income	surprise sexswap	telepathic trauma
unrequited pining	skeletons in the closet	blood loss	mistaken identity	motion sickness
major illness	blackmail	WILD CARD	confession in desperate situation	sensory deprivation
depression	extortion	drowning	orphans	stalkers
time travel gone wrong	lacerations / knife wounds	wings	unexpected consequences of planned soulbonding	parting ways

therapy	whipping / flogging	broken bones	electrocution	cursed
plane crash	poltergeist	brainwashing	runaways	Stockholm syndrome
bruises	confession in desperate situation	WILD CARD	head trauma	unconsciousness
de-age	burns	poisoning	unrequited pining	interrogation
nervous breakdown	disappearing	taking care of somebody	telepathic trauma	grief

hc_bingo, once again!

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