arduinna: a tarot-card version of Linus from Peanuts, carrying a lamp as The Hermit (Default)
[personal profile] arduinna
If I sign up for [community profile] hc_bingo enough, eventually I will actually manage to pull off a bingo, right?

This year's card:

therapy whipping / flogging broken bones electrocution cursed
plane crash poltergeist brainwashing runaways Stockholm syndrome
bruises confession in desperate situation WILD CARD head trauma unconsciousness
de-age burns poisoning unrequited pining interrogation
nervous breakdown disappearing taking care of somebody telepathic trauma grief


Most of this is stuff I haven't written, but hey, it's good to expand your comfort zones. And there are only a couple I'm eyeing particularly askance. Pretty good card, overall!

Date: 2012-06-11 05:23 pm (UTC)
dorinda: A little clam made of pink and grey yarn, peeking out of its shell with googly eyes. (clam_cute)
From: [personal profile] dorinda
Welp, you and [personal profile] mollyamory did the trick...I asked for a card! Ulp.

Well, honestly, I'm more capable of thinking creatively for things I haven't been assigned myself, as I get to skip the whole tharn phase of panic and lockdown. *g*

Heh. Yeah, that was a concern of mine...I was attracted by seeing other peoples' cards and going Oh wow, totally cool, I can imagine x y z...but when it's my responsibility, then comes the tharn stage.

I'm not sure that would qualify, as the pregnancy would have to directly affect your characters; it can't just be incidental.

Point taken! Although I had imagined that the numbered-woman's pregnancy would be a big cause of everything that happened to Reese and Finch--for instance, that her pregnancy was the precise thing putting her in such danger. Which danger they then put themselves in the way of, while helping look after her and her particular needs. Would that still be incidental, do you think? (Although I really like your ideas and would gladly steal borrow them with permission if necessary...)

our beloved clam had added another layer of shell, and the other beloved clam had noticed and silently investigated and then gently brushed his fingers across the back of the first clam's hand at an opportune moment...

Oh, boys, GET A ROOM. :D

I tend to forget that this allows for pretty short writing, too

I definitely forget this, all the time! But my focus will have to be on short pieces, forcibly if necessary, since part of my overall goal is to get more experience/comfort in writing short.

and we could do our own mini-deadlines -- one story a month, or something

Let's do! Let's have some kind of accountability deal together. I mean, writing while hanging with [personal profile] mollyamory and [personal profile] marycrawford got me over a thousand words into the stalled comment fic (or rather, by now, "comment fic") I promised Lydia, just over the past couple of nights!

Date: 2012-06-11 05:26 pm (UTC)
dorinda: Someone writing at a desk while wearing a large helmet with an oxygen tube attached (a device called "The Isolator"). (isolator)
From: [personal profile] dorinda
Ooo-err, here's my card!:

bullet wounds loss of job / income blood loss fire medication
rejection comfort food or item sexual extortion amnesia self-harm
depression brainwashing WILD CARD drowning nightmares
panic attacks archaic medical treatment hiding an injury / illness burns extortion
homesickness stranded / survival scenario forced to participate in illegal / hurtful activity planet destruction hostile climate


Edited (Border lines didn't show on preview, but did when posted!) Date: 2012-06-11 05:27 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-11 05:34 pm (UTC)
klia: (reese/finch)
From: [personal profile] klia
Oooh, hey, you got a good one! There are really only two that vaguely squick me. \o/

Date: 2012-06-11 05:39 pm (UTC)
dorinda: A little clam made of pink and grey yarn, peeking out of its shell with googly eyes. (clam_cute)
From: [personal profile] dorinda
Yeah, it may not have cuddling for warmth (the holy grail! *g*), but it has brainwashing! ♥ Plus a couple of things I've written in the past, so I know I can manage it.

What are your vague squicks in this context? It would be easy for me to avoid them, at this early planning stage.

P.S. ICON LOOOOOOVE.

Date: 2012-06-11 05:50 pm (UTC)
klia: (finch)
From: [personal profile] klia
Brainwashing and amnesia! And nightmares! And hiding an illness/injury! Bullet wounds! Medication! (Heh -- PoI already did those last two. ♥)

I'm vaguely twitchy about self-harm (because it tends to manifest in fanfic as BSOs cutting themselves like teenage girls) and sexual extortion (again, in the context of fanfic, I associate with Aliens/Sadistic Villains Made Us Do It). But I can't see you writing either of those examples, anyway!

Feel free to help yourself to all three, if you'd like.

Date: 2012-06-11 06:11 pm (UTC)
dorinda: Someone writing at a desk while wearing a large helmet with an oxygen tube attached (a device called "The Isolator"). (isolator)
From: [personal profile] dorinda
(Heh -- PoI already did those last two. ♥)

They diiiiiid. ...and hmm, actually, they did those last three, if we count John in the finale, having been hurt but keeping it to himself for the time being, his arm quietly down by his side... Oh, POI, you are so good to me.

And understood about those squicks! I don't think I'd write them in those particular ways--at least, I hope not!--but it's good to be alert. I think my approach would be more along the lines of... Like, for sexual extortion, how Kelly (and more rarely, Scotty) is sometimes sent on missions to seduce-and-destroy, which may not always end up very well for them. Or, really, any one of my BSOs who might need to go undercover to do that particular deed against an antagonist. If I understand the phrase correctly, I think that sort of thing would count?

Self-harm, hmm. I again suspect I wouldn't have the self-harm be an expression of personal inner depression/anxiety, a la cutting. I feel like I'd be more likely to have the self-harm come from a different place, as when Reese is in the refrigerated truck and bruises/lacerates his wrists so badly from struggling against the handcuffs. A type of self-harm performed in a back-against-the-wall situation, especially to save someone else. (Pause for a moment to run the scene through my head. Ahhh.)

Feel free to help yourself to all three, if you'd like.

Oh oh oh you have a MEANINGFUL GLASSES ADJUSTMENT. Sigh! ♥____♥

Date: 2012-06-11 06:29 pm (UTC)
klia: (reese)
From: [personal profile] klia
Oh, POI, you are so good to me.

Truly! ♥ ♥ ♥

Or, really, any one of my BSOs who might need to go undercover to do that particular deed against an antagonist. If I understand the phrase correctly, I think that sort of thing would count?

I guess I tend to interpret prompts as against our BSOs, not necessarily something they do, as part of their jobs, to others? But I don't know enough about the rules to make that call.

A type of self-harm performed in a back-against-the-wall situation, especially to save someone else. (Pause for a moment to run the scene through my head. Ahhh.)

YES! See, I've been so conditioned against it that I never even thought of something like that. (Mmm... yes, that scene.)

Oh oh oh you have a MEANINGFUL GLASSES ADJUSTMENT.

And crinkly-eyed Reese smile! ♥

Date: 2012-06-11 06:42 pm (UTC)
dorinda: Scotty has caught the toppling Kelly, and speaks into his ear from behind. (ISpy_Vendetta_catch)
From: [personal profile] dorinda
But I don't know enough about the rules to make that call.

Me neither, at this point. *g* I'll run it past people who're more familiar with the whole bingo experience. But my thinking at present is that it could count, if the sexual-extortion our BSOs have to perform is the ultimate cause of the H in the H/C. (I mean, the episode "Laya" kind of does that to Scotty already, having his loathing of the whole process spark off a ton of distress, and a fight with Kelly...)

The rules also talk about how the prompt can be related to the H or the C, which seems to indicate some basic flexibility of interpretation (esp. rules 15 and 16 here), as long as the prompt is a central feature of the story and not just a passing detail ("After the mission where they did a lot of sexual extortion, it turns out Kelly and Scotty got lost in the Arctic and had to cuddle for warmth!").

But these are just my guesses, and I'll keep noodging those in the know for their thoughts.

And crinkly-eyed Reese smile!

*falls over* I will never get tired of that scene. Aiiiieeee.

Date: 2012-06-11 10:57 pm (UTC)
klia: (reese)
From: [personal profile] klia
*falls over* I will never get tired of that scene. Aiiiieeee.

IKR? *flails*

Date: 2012-06-11 06:28 pm (UTC)
dorinda: Someone writing at a desk while wearing a large helmet with an oxygen tube attached (a device called "The Isolator"). (isolator)
From: [personal profile] dorinda
I am excited!

And yours, too... That central row right across just seems so so nice, and moreso every time I look at it. Hell, I could imagine that row serving as the five-prompts-one-story row thing in the Extras, too, depending on where your actual Bingo pattern ends up being.

Date: 2012-06-11 06:35 pm (UTC)
klia: (reese/finch)
From: [personal profile] klia
Yours is pretty awesome, too! Again, really only two squicky things (and flogging is one of yours, too).

Date: 2012-06-11 07:01 pm (UTC)
dorinda: Scotty has caught the toppling Kelly, and speaks into his ear from behind. (ISpy_Vendetta_catch)
From: [personal profile] dorinda
Heee...yeah, the cards are always greener in the other person's html code.

And never underestimate the usefulness of canonical flogging! Which reminds me...

Brainwashing would be there, too, and even is to a minor extent, but there's always Kelly

There IS always Kelly. When in search of a canonical hurt, you should have him in your pocket just in case! I mean, he's also a possibility for flogging, if you posited a missing scene in Room With a Rack (aka THEY TORTURE KELLY) or a pre-episode explanation for his injuries in Home to Judgment (aka SOMEONE ALREADY TORTURED KELLY). :D He's like a Swiss Army Knife of canon-H for your H/C needs.

De-aging is one of those fantastical ones that I figured I'd have to get very metaphorical about. (I mean, weirdo universes like Haven excluded.)

Date: 2012-06-11 07:40 pm (UTC)
dorinda: Nathan Wuornos (from Haven) presses a plastic fork hard against his palm. (Haven_nathan)
From: [personal profile] dorinda
Mmmmmmm, I like the way you think.

*hugs Kelly pre-emptively*

*...and Reese too*

But not impossible, I think...

Not impossible! And I mean, if you're using it for a realistic-universe fandom and don't want to go magical-realism or cracky, I was imagining possible interpretations like... Oh, let's take Kelly, just since he's already here and suffering so helpfully. *g* Maybe Kelly has to infiltrate/seduce/socialize his way into a particular expat group. But by this time in his career, the folks in the group are all a lot younger than he is. So he has to 1) pitch himself as a slightly younger guy, and 2) keep up with the energy levels and activities (and maturity levels) preferred by this younger set, to better be included by them instead of being seen as the Dad-Mascot. More of a personal/forcible/metaphorical "de-aging", that would surely bring on a lot of psychological distress for him (re: aging out of the job, falling down on the job, the Department grinding him into the dirt as their expendable tool...), not even to mention the physical toll.

That was just off the top of my head, though, as one angle on an "I am trapped as [in the role of] a younger person and I can't get out" sort of thing. I'm sure there are better ways to go at it, without having to do the "poof, someone is crackily turned into a little kid and their partner has to look after them oh jeez no thank you nooooo". *cough*

Date: 2012-06-11 10:56 pm (UTC)
klia: (reese/finch)
From: [personal profile] klia
"poof, someone is crackily turned into a little kid and their partner has to look after them oh jeez no thank you nooooo". *cough*

*makes warding sign*

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds that not to their taste.

Date: 2012-06-11 08:01 pm (UTC)
klia: (finch)
From: [personal profile] klia
Yeah, if it's canonical flogging, I can usually deal (as long as it's not Passion of the Christ extreme, or the writer doesn't decide to turn it into sexxytiems -- and I know you wouldn't do either!), but only if there's a big, honkin' boatload of comfort afterward (if not, it's just sadism, which is really, really not my thing).

My other squicky thing was de-aging, which you were also side-eyeing a bit. Again, it's one thing if there's something canonical (like the younger version of Jack in SG-1), or if there were supernatural elements in canon that might account for it. Otherwise? DNW.

I'd be okay with Stockholm syndrome connected to someone like Loki, because we've seen him whammy people.

Date: 2012-06-11 10:44 pm (UTC)
klia: (reese)
From: [personal profile] klia
You're welcome to my icons, too. I don't make very good ones, but they serve their purpose. *g*

all I can think is how much it would hurt.

Same here. Pain will never be erotic to me (just like incest won't, either).

Or even during, since it sounds like Clint was practically goa'ulded.

Totally! That could be really interesting to explore, as a writer. (Wait... who am I kidding? There must be lots of Clint ponders... stories out there already! *g*)

Date: 2012-06-11 07:15 pm (UTC)
dorinda: Someone writing at a desk while wearing a large helmet with an oxygen tube attached (a device called "The Isolator"). (isolator)
From: [personal profile] dorinda
The rules mention of "significant factor" but also "at your discretion" is indeed where I'd pin my hopes...but you make an excellent point, which I think I'd end up having to follow:

(e.g., so the comfort would be about a bullet wound or head trauma from falling off a wall, rather than comfort about something pregnancy-related).

Yeah, that makes very good sense, and I can see the dodging involved, which would kind of defeat the point of the exercise. And therefore I would definitely need one of your clever POI ideas or similar, had I gotten 'unplanned pregnancy' (I ruled out 'difficult pregnancy' but left in 'unplanned' and took a gamble, in order to remove something else).

Did you read Ces's story? You should, it is lovely!

Not yet, but I certainly will! YAY CES WROTE CLAMS ON PARADE. \o/

And I am all for an accountability thing, and/or group writing hours, or what have you.

Whatever else we do, we could certainly go for 'story-a-month' (aka Arduinna's Law, wasn't that the definition of that one?), if you like. And then the group-writing-time could happen when we can manage it, but wouldn't be quite as mandatory (I'm someone who presently has a fair amount of trouble getting the time and privacy for group writing time, although I love it when I can get it...)

Although I may beg off for June on accounta vidding psychosis.

Understandable! If your eyes are still spinning around all @____@ , you could take June as 1) vidding crazy time, and secondarily 2) eyeballing card and thinking about your favorite squares time.

Date: 2012-06-12 08:11 am (UTC)
marycrawford: 13 hour clock icon (Default)
From: [personal profile] marycrawford
Joining in to say: hi, I have caved like a caving thing!

My card:


headaches / migraines loss of limb / limb function loss of job / income surprise sexswap telepathic trauma
unrequited pining skeletons in the closet blood loss mistaken identity motion sickness
major illness blackmail WILD CARD confession in desperate situation sensory deprivation
depression extortion drowning orphans stalkers
time travel gone wrong lacerations / knife wounds wings unexpected consequences of planned soulbonding parting ways


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