December meme: vidding what we intended
Dec. 9th, 2013 09:08 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
arduinnaFor heresluck: Of all the vids you've made, which is the one where what you actually produced most closely matches what you wanted to do?
Oh, huh, good question! (er,therienne and I vid together as flummery [all vids here], for anyone reading along who didn't know that. So when I talk about vidding, it tends to be in the plural.)
We usually talk vids out pretty thoroughly before we start vidding, so there aren't really many that go off in a direction we didn't expect. But it is true that we often refine and adjust as we go, so the end result isn't quite what we'd planned initially.
I think the one that comes absolutely closest is our first-ever vid, Kryptonite for Invisible Man. We didn't just talk that one out originally; we outlined it verse by verse, line by line, well before we ever started vidding. (In fact, we were those fans, the one who earnestly sent that outline to a vidder friend saying "hey, we had this great idea, can you make it?" She was very kind in her refusal. *g* ♥Snady♥)
We lost that outline before we got into vidding ourselves, so we thought we were basically starting fresh with the vid, talking it out all over again and writing notes. Plus we were vidding live source, right up to the weekend before it premiered at Escapade, so things had to have been changing. But years later we found a copy of that original outline, and it was astonishing how closely we'd hewed to it after all. So on a very specific level, that's the one that matches.
Although even as I'm typing that, I'm having little "but what about!" moments, because a lot of our vids definitely tell the story we wanted them to from the getgo, we just had to adjust our approaches to make them sharper, clearer stories. We always start with the music that leads to the idea, not an idea that we then have to search for music for, so we usually have a pretty solid goal in mind by the time we start laying clips.
Okay, I'm amused; I just calledtherienne to get her opinion, and she came up with a three-way tie -- and then went on to talk about how Kryptonite was line-by-line exact to the outline we'd written up a year and a half before vidding it. So clearly that's her strongest candidate, too.
We differ slightly on the next two: we both agree that Walking on the Ground (meta) is a close second -- once we realized what kind of meta we were going for, we knew exactly what we wanted, and that's what we wound up with. For me the third closest is Handlebars (Doctor Who); fortherienne, it's Jerusalem (BSG). Both of us can see the other's reasoning on those, so maybe those are a third-place tie. (We knew the Handlebars theme instantly, and how we wanted to present the Doctor, but we weren't sure about specifics, and had to grind our way through the verses a bit; Jerusalem fell into place a bit more easily once we realized it had to be a triple POV and what "Jerusalem" meant for each character, but that was not our original thought, and it took a lot of working things out to realize that's what we needed.)
I think the big exception to matching our original intention is Ramalama, for Once Upon a Time. We talked out the Regina-and-Snow vid we wanted to make for it, we got all our clips, we started vidding -- and partway in, we realized it wasn't supposed to be Regina-and-Snow, it was Regina-and-Rumple-mirrored, and the entire focus of the vid changed. We had to reclip and re-do everything. Very annoying, as we'd specifically chosen not to clip most of the Rumple shots, because we were worried he'd take over the vid if we included him. (Yeah, that should have been our first clue, really.)
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heresluck: Of all the vids you've made, which is the one where what you actually produced most closely matches what you wanted to do? Oh, huh, good question! (er,
therienne and I vid together as flummery [all vids here], for anyone reading along who didn't know that. So when I talk about vidding, it tends to be in the plural.)We usually talk vids out pretty thoroughly before we start vidding, so there aren't really many that go off in a direction we didn't expect. But it is true that we often refine and adjust as we go, so the end result isn't quite what we'd planned initially.
I think the one that comes absolutely closest is our first-ever vid, Kryptonite for Invisible Man. We didn't just talk that one out originally; we outlined it verse by verse, line by line, well before we ever started vidding. (In fact, we were those fans, the one who earnestly sent that outline to a vidder friend saying "hey, we had this great idea, can you make it?" She was very kind in her refusal. *g* ♥Snady♥)
We lost that outline before we got into vidding ourselves, so we thought we were basically starting fresh with the vid, talking it out all over again and writing notes. Plus we were vidding live source, right up to the weekend before it premiered at Escapade, so things had to have been changing. But years later we found a copy of that original outline, and it was astonishing how closely we'd hewed to it after all. So on a very specific level, that's the one that matches.
Although even as I'm typing that, I'm having little "but what about!" moments, because a lot of our vids definitely tell the story we wanted them to from the getgo, we just had to adjust our approaches to make them sharper, clearer stories. We always start with the music that leads to the idea, not an idea that we then have to search for music for, so we usually have a pretty solid goal in mind by the time we start laying clips.
Okay, I'm amused; I just called
therienne to get her opinion, and she came up with a three-way tie -- and then went on to talk about how Kryptonite was line-by-line exact to the outline we'd written up a year and a half before vidding it. So clearly that's her strongest candidate, too. We differ slightly on the next two: we both agree that Walking on the Ground (meta) is a close second -- once we realized what kind of meta we were going for, we knew exactly what we wanted, and that's what we wound up with. For me the third closest is Handlebars (Doctor Who); for
therienne, it's Jerusalem (BSG). Both of us can see the other's reasoning on those, so maybe those are a third-place tie. (We knew the Handlebars theme instantly, and how we wanted to present the Doctor, but we weren't sure about specifics, and had to grind our way through the verses a bit; Jerusalem fell into place a bit more easily once we realized it had to be a triple POV and what "Jerusalem" meant for each character, but that was not our original thought, and it took a lot of working things out to realize that's what we needed.)I think the big exception to matching our original intention is Ramalama, for Once Upon a Time. We talked out the Regina-and-Snow vid we wanted to make for it, we got all our clips, we started vidding -- and partway in, we realized it wasn't supposed to be Regina-and-Snow, it was Regina-and-Rumple-mirrored, and the entire focus of the vid changed. We had to reclip and re-do everything. Very annoying, as we'd specifically chosen not to clip most of the Rumple shots, because we were worried he'd take over the vid if we included him. (Yeah, that should have been our first clue, really.)
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Date: 2013-12-10 06:01 am (UTC)Hahaha. I love Rama Lama Bang Bang a lot; it's what got me watching OUAT. Do you ever plan to vid Once Upon a Time again? I've been thinking lately about how much the world needs a Regina and Snow vid.
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Date: 2013-12-11 02:26 am (UTC)\o/ That's awesome to hear!
Alas, we have no plans to vid OUaT again; both of us have drifted away from the show this season, and even if we hadn't, we usually wind up just doing one vid per fandom. Not intentionally! But it usually works out that way.
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Date: 2013-12-11 12:10 am (UTC)Given the amount of planning you do, it makes sense that there's not much gap between idea and result, which makes the case of Ramalama extra interesting.
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Date: 2013-12-11 02:49 am (UTC)This was a fun question! I hadn't really thought about the fact that we do have some that went in directions we weren't quite expecting, or that were a little more unformed when we started. I tend to think of us as always Having The Plan Ready. Heh.
(Oh, such a pretty icon!)